Friday, April 4, 2008

Debating Calvinism

aomin.orgSo, I was not able to listen live yesterday because I had mom stuff to do around the house. However, I did download and listen last night to part one of the five day debate on the doctrines of grace between Dr. James White and Steve Gregg.

In case you haven't heard it yet and would like to, I wont ruin it by adding much commentary except to say, Gregg opens his presentation by telling his audience that you wont believe Calvinism is true unless you've been trained or taught that it is, and trained in theology, and if you simply read the Bible, you too will take the "default" position which is neither Calvinism or Arminianism. Okay.

Let me also add this:

I have never been formally trained in theology, and I came to understand and believe the doctrines of grace from reading the Bible. This testimony is shared by countless other Calvinists, so Gregg's position is quite certainly blown out of the water by real live, walking, talking, living, breathing Calvinists. How he'd answer for this, is anyone's guess.

He goes on in his presentation (at just under 10 minutes in) on the topic of the sovereingty of God, to say that he does not believe God ordains everything, as a Calvinist would believe. His position is that God does not ordain all things to come to pass in any direct sense, but that all sorts of things simply just "happen" and God is not directly involved at all.

This should give you an idea what Dr. White would come back to address. Let me also add, Dr. White did a fantastic job of showing from the Scripture (contrary to Gregg's assertion that Dr. White only listed verses and didn't prove anything, UGH!) why Gregg is in error, and how God is in fact supremely sovereign and active in all His creation.

You can download part one here. Full schedule is as follows:

Calvinism Debate
James White debates Steve Gregg on The Narrow Path, April 3, 4, 7, 8 & 9 at 2pm PDT. Tune in at KKMC radio or on the live-simul-webcast here.